The early-’80s were a busy time for the trio of musicians who made up Genesis. On this day in 1983, they put out their 12th studio album (and fourth since culling their roster down to just Phil Collins, Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks) – the self-titled one. It came out about two years after Abacab and a year after 3 Sides Live, a double album with (not surprisingly) three sides of live music from their 1982 world tour, and one side of new tracks. As well, both Collins and Rutherford had put out solo albums in between.
Little surprise they were feeling a bit tired, and that might or might not have shown through in the record. Certainly it was reflected in how they made this album. For the first time, they recorded at “The Farm”, a studio they’d built on a farm in Surrey, and began the album from scratch. Whereas in past efforts, each of the musicians came in with rough takes of songs in progress and then had the others add and edit, they say this time out they wrote collaboratively and started many of the songs by just jamming together. It was a relaxing time for the three, as well as for producer Hugh Padgham in all likelihood. He’d just completed work on The Police’s Synchronicity, which of course was a smash hit but also was a near riot to put together, with that group all at each other’s throats and at times refusing to be in the same room together.
The result was interesting. It was almost universally viewed as the most “pop” record they’d ever recorded, which of course caused wildly differing opinions as to whether or not this was a good thing. To many, even though the band say it was their most collaborative, it sounded more like a solo Phil Collins record than a band effort. All in all the record, and opinions were a mixed bag. There were straight-ahead pop numbers like the Beatles-inspired “That’s All” (Banks started that one by playing what he figured was a Beatlesque-riff on the piano and Collins tried to emulate Ringo’s drumming), the goofy novelty song “Illegal Alien”, some nods to their prog rock past, like “Home by the Sea”, a two-part song, and the first single. “Mama”, with its creepy Collins laugh, heavily gated reverb drum sound Padgham was noted for producing, and disturbing lyrics (apparently about a boy obsessed with an old prostitute but interpreted by others as a lad turned on by his own mother) it seemed more suited to a Halloween movie than mainstream radio.
The band was surprised the record company picked it as a single, but Mike Rutherford approved. He says they decided “we should go with something that was a bit different.” Different it was, but it worked, going to #4 in the UK – their highest chart to that point – and was a top 10 in most European countries. The more typical radio-single, “That’s All” made it to #6 in the U.S., their best showing there to that point. The now politically-incorrect “Illegal Alien” (Rutherford says it’s “tongue in cheek” and supposed to show an empathy for the undocumented, not insult them) just missed out.
Genesis went on to put out three more albums (their pace slowed considerably as Collins became a major star in his own right ) and continued on, sporadically as a live act until wrapping it up last year.
I have one Genesis album and this is it! lol Got it given to me by my wife’s friend.Not a bad album at all Dave. Great backstory here as well on this album. Good stuff Dave.
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thanks Deke! I had that one on vinyl back then, listened to it a fair bit. Some of the songs still seem to sound pretty good.
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LOL this was my only Genesis album also, don’t think I still have it!
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Maybe I have your copy Randy! Lol
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too funny!
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I think this is the tour I saw them on…I’ll have to look at my ticket stub…. yes it is the tour… I found the set list… cool. I remember them doing Mama and That’s All…
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/genesis/1983/nashville-municipal-auditorium-nashville-tn-2bd82c56.html
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nice! Thanks for posting that. they were definitely a band I wanted to see back around then, but didn’t. I had the 3 Sides Live album, and it sounded good…. was a live album that didn’t seem like just an afterthought or a fulfill a contractual obligation type.
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The reason I remember “Mama” was because it was so damn bizarre…you would never forget that one live.
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good or bad, it had to be the most memorable of their trio-era singles. I loved it at the time, now I am not sure it stacks up that well but it sure was unique.
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My favorite track was That’s All…which makes sense now!
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with them trying to sound Beatlesque?
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Yes…I never knew that…I just automatically liked the song.
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it was a good one, I still like it. One of their catchier mainstream offerings. It was the last album by them that really caught my ear though. In a good way at least. I remember ‘I Can’t Dance’ and thinking ‘yeah, and now you can’t sing or compose either!’
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Yea I remember I Can’t Dance… I liked that one as well.
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Man you have seen so many great acts!!
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he did, quite a few more than me I think. Prices kept me from going to a lot in the ’80s , though I was still lucky to see quite a few really good ones.
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We had quite a few to come through here but never the giant ones…like The Who or Stones until the 90s…but everyone else yes…I was very fortunate to see a lot of bands.
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I was lucky in that respect, Toronto was a major point on most big tours both mainstream rock and new wave/alt rock. Only country didn’t always show up, but I really didn’t care much about it back then anyway … evidently few in Toronto did because there were big tours of acts like Alabama and Garth Brooks that somehow didn’t get to Toronto. U2 would definitely be the biggest group I’ve seen but at the time, they were still on their way up (‘The Unforgettable Fire’).
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Yes you got all the big shows…the one I regret the most missing was The Who on their “goodbye” tour…with the Clash opening…I would have loved to seen that one. I wasn’t driving yet though…if I were I would have driven to see them.
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I think I might have known a person or two that went to that , friends of my brother. Seems like The Clash didn’t get a good reception but better than when poor Joe Jackson was the opener!
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Opening up for the Who would not have been easy… even at that time. They were legends by then.
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for sure, would be tough to find someone the crowd would have patience with and that would be willing to be an opener. Maybe having regionally-popular rock acts to open, instead of one band, might have worked… Toronto could have been Rush or Triumph back then, Chicago maybe REO Speedwagon (still before their real pop transformation), something like that.
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This takes me back, watching that video and Phil with the stash, pretty hokie stuff but super talented guys.
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yeah, it was kind of cheesy but it was fun – the kind of fun no one would likely get away with these days!
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Fine pop, but ‘Mama’ was an… odd one.
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that it was. If nothing else, on that one no one – NOONE – could accuse them of playing it safe and writing paint-by-numbers pop tunes.
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I really liked this album at the time it came out. I borrowed the LP from someone (may have been my brother-in-law), taped it on music cassette and played it frequently.
I was listening to “Mama” just before I started to write this comment and can’t really say I still find it particularly enjoyable. “That’s All” is holding up much better. I can also still listen to “Just a Job to Do”, though I feel largely indifferent, but maybe I’m taking it all too hard!
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Haha! Yeah, about the same on ‘Mama’ – it sure stood out, and at the time I liked it (for maybe two years after the album came out, it was probably among my five, six most-played albums, thought it was all quite excellent) but now…not quite so much. ‘Just a Job to Do’, funny, I was thinking of that song just before I posted album, because we watched a show about an unsolved murder in Britain and I was thinking, well whoever did it was an amateur, and that put me in mind of that song!
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